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  The " HIGHER EDUCATION" thread!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  alright.

  let's have the ultimate discussion on "higher education.

  " let's talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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  Oh Gawd

  Never A JW, but I have a B.S. in economics, and an MBA. I've never had trouble earning money and being in the top 5% of income earners, but I think that's more because of my drive and the schools I went to than the actual degrees. Picking the right school is even more important now I feel since so many get degrees these days.

  However, I see a lot of posts here and else where that talk about college as though it's some sort of trade school. The value of college IS NOT getting a good job. In fact, chances are you may never work in your actual field of study. I never have.

  The reason to go to college is to learn how to learn. The exposure to new ideas, people from other cultures, having to study stuff you had no interest in, the networking; it all pays off in the end.

  Five years after college I would have said college was bs. Twenty five years later I can say without a doubt going to college was the single best decision I ever made.
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  Joseph Rutherford and Burlesque

  by Amazing in

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  no one really expects 'perfection' of their fellow humans, even of those in high station.

  our past president, bill clinton certainly demonstrated that men in high station can and do give into acts that are not accepted by the public at large.

  likewise, i doubt anyone expects that joseph rutherford would be perfect, but we would expect that as a human, he had his ways.. what about "true" spiritual leaders?

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  Bill Clinton certainly demonstrated that men in high station can and do give into acts that are not accepted by the public at large.

  Hold the phone!....Forget Rutherford for a minute.....Acts?...I hope the "act" you're talking about is cheating on his wife
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  Just caught my 7 yr old watching 'Calebs Aeroplane' think I overreacted

  by not bitter in

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  at least i think thats what its called.

  she was watching it at my parents house just now.

  i asked what she was watching on my mums tablet and mum said whilst laughing 'oh sorry but she wants to watch bible stories' then all i heard was something about jehovah and keeping rooms tidy.

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  Oh Gawd

  Don't apologize...It's your daughter and you have every right to enforce whatever rules you deem appropriate.

  I take it one step(or maybe many steps) further...If my kids JW grandparents want a relationship with their grand kids then they need to behave. I have a zero tolerence policy when it comes to my kids being exposed to dangerous situations or information.
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  Just look at this... for a good natured laugh

  by caliber in

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  muslim genesis... eve needs a bigger leaf... her legs are showing.

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  COOTWF

  Great pic and a great reminder of why electing religious fundamentalists is always a bad idea.
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  is all religon crap?

  by thesaint in

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  like jw are crap is there any religon dat is atally conneced to god?.

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  Oh Gawd

  The fact there are a lot of religions only proves that it's a good business to be in, not that there is a God.

  And, if there is a God, do you really think they would make it so difficult if they wanted you to know or cared in the slightest about you?
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  plesase help me: examples of true prophets being wrong

  by nonjwspouse in

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  my husband insists all the men chosen to be prophets were inperfect men.

  i agreed.

  i do not agree that what they prophacied about; said was from the word of god; could ever be wrong.

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  True prophets being wrong?....this is easy

  Since there is no God there are no prophets. Trying to argue with someone about why your lie is more believable than their lie makes no sense.
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  JWs, evolution and fossils

  by Oh Gawd in

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  a while back my fil was on a kick about earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes.

  after bombarding him with actual facts showing the wts is full of shit when declaring these activies to be increasing in frequency he's now dropped that subject.

  of coure he never admitted to being wrong..haha.

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  Billy, what I find is that my FIL, an elder with over 40 years in the borg, wants to talk about such things. The problem is just the slightest bit of counter-information makes him turn into a mad man. Very mad in fact. Oh wait, that's not a problem, that's the fun part LOL!

  designs...I thought JW's believed in an old Earth. Fairly certain I've read that in their literature. They just think people appeared 6,000 years ago. Not sure what they think was happening throughout those other 14 billion years.
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  JWs, evolution and fossils

  by Oh Gawd in

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  a while back my fil was on a kick about earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes.

  after bombarding him with actual facts showing the wts is full of shit when declaring these activies to be increasing in frequency he's now dropped that subject.

  of coure he never admitted to being wrong..haha.

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  Snare and racket, thanks.

  I have studied evolution for over 30 years( a promise I made to a couple professors who wanted me to study the sciences instead of persuing Law and Business degrees..haha) so I'm not to worried about the conversation. However, the JW's seem to have some theories that are unique. The fact that they are taught by people who don't understand the subject matter leads to a varity of opinions making it even more difficult to know which hairbrain theory he'll latch on to. Sometimes he'll even conflate two theories and make up his own.

  Btw, not to be a jerk, but I should clarify some of your info.

  First, there are not billions of known fossils in the record. Not even close. (edit; I think you're talking about Fossils period for which there are probably billions if you count all the stuff people just pick up and take home or ignore altogether..I'm talking about those that provide the record for the evolution of species)

  The box car quote you refer to was from the publication, "The Origin of Life, 5 questions worth asking" which I believe was published in 2010. The quote was actually a misquote taken from a book written by Fred Smith. And, the quote was that there wasn't enough fossils to fill a box car. Obviously that is not true.

  Another question, do JWs have a position of transitionary fossils like Ambulocetus (walking whale) or Archaeopteryx (bird to dinosaur)
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  JWs, evolution and fossils

  by Oh Gawd in

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  a while back my fil was on a kick about earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes.

  after bombarding him with actual facts showing the wts is full of shit when declaring these activies to be increasing in frequency he's now dropped that subject.

  of coure he never admitted to being wrong..haha.

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  didn't even think about Dinosaurs. So they don't belive they existed?
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  JWs, evolution and fossils

  by Oh Gawd in

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  a while back my fil was on a kick about earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes.

  after bombarding him with actual facts showing the wts is full of shit when declaring these activies to be increasing in frequency he's now dropped that subject.

  of coure he never admitted to being wrong..haha.

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  Oh Gawd

  A while back my FIL was on a kick about earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes. After bombarding him with actual facts showing the WTS is full of shit when declaring these activies to be increasing in frequency he's now dropped that subject. Of coure he never admitted to being wrong..haha. Instead he agreed that you can't always believe what you read. I assume he doesn't apply this to the WTS though.

  The funny part is he had my info for about a month before bringing up that he had read my emails. Thats odd. Maybe he was trying to muster a response but couldn't? I don't know. However, as he was going on about not believing everything you read he brought up evolution as an example. I didn't challenge him at the time. I was in a, wow, this guy is a total idiot, mindset. But, it got me wondering.

  What does the WTS say about evolution? I know they dispute the fossil record, but on what grounds? I know they have some whacked out theory about a water canopy and how that throws off radio carbon dating. I think I've also heard him say something like theres no evidence of one speies turning into another, which, of course, is completely untrue.

  I want to have some fun with him, but when you're dealing with someone whose mind is mush and filled with irrational ideas it's hard to predict what his answers will be. Often times I'mleft thinking, wtf is this retard talking about. I'd like to be better prepared when I start to pull the wings off this fly.